Kurzweil on The Future of Robots
Posted 29 Aug 2006 at 13:45 UTC by steve 
A Popular
Science article gives Ray Kurzweil's view
on the future of robots,
the merging of man and machine, understanding the human brain, and the
singularity. The
singularity refers to the idea that technological change
is increasing at an exponential rate approaching infinity. At a certain
point (the singularity), kurzweil and others believe, the rate of change
will exceed the ability of
humans to deal with it and machines will take over as the dominate
species. As we noted in a previous story, the idea
has been around for a long time and we've missed at least one previous
predicted date for the impending singularity. It's more likely that the
compression method our brains use to store historical information
produces an illusion of accelerating change.
Nutty, posted 29 Aug 2006 at 16:20 UTC by reed »
(Apprentice)
I've always though that Kurzeil's singularity theory was a bit nutty,
don't you?
It's sort of interesting (and frightening) to think about, but after
pondering it for a while and coming back into the real world, there's
not much to be learned from the theory that's useful.
The singularity theory is just one of the possible futures that could
happen if all went wrong and no one cared about life and doom and
gloom and if sky net becomes coherent, and grey goo nanites eat and
replace your brain and all future shock theories comes true. I don't
expect the future to really happen that way. People have predicted a
techno gloomy future many times before. I'd like to think he wants to
think of the singularity in a happy thoughts kind of way but in
reality, it's still just another techno doom and gloom scenario to
shock you and that likely won't come true. I mean, you could really
work yourself up over this future shock stuff, but at some point, like
you said, you have to come back to reality. So, don't worry, be
happy. I think Kurtzweil is a little over the top on this stuff too.
Enjoy life and embrace technology and we'll control you from here. ;-)
I think a lot of these theories leave out two very important concepts:
First, in order for something to "take over" it has to actually want to.
Since we have yet to build something that can rub its mechanical
manipulators together in a maniacal and tyrannical way and play the
EvilLaugh.wav file out its speakers in a convincing manner, I don't
think we're at risk of having the industrial spot welder and spray paint
robots take over any time soon. They simply don't have any desire to do so.
Second, in order for technology to out-pace the human ability to "keep
up" you have to change the humans first. Some of the early statements
about computers come to mind. To paraphrase: computers double their
computing power every N months, therefore in X years they will [insert
scary statement]. But what happened was that every year, every month,
every day, software developers developed more and more powerful (and
yeah, more and more bloated) software that took full advantage of the
available computing power. They didn't outstrip our demands... we
simply made more demanding demands and kept going.
Maybe it's short-sighted of me, but I have a hard time buying into the
sentient and evil computers and robots theories. I think we stand a
much better chance of wrecking our various economies first. But that's
a doom and gloom story for another day.
"Technological change is expotential rate approaching infinity",too
true mate,it is the worlds mission and decree,the wisdom you have
spoken here,bring it on,there is no other way,machines are the true
future.
...but unless we adapt ourselves - probably by integration with our
technological creations - we will become inferior. I don't see it
happening in my lifetime to any appreciable extent, but it will
happen. I'd love to have the ability to do creative problem solving
as now, and augmented by all that google/wikipedia/national-archives
had to offer.
Or we'll run out of oil and fall into the dark ages.
M
Another note., posted 30 Aug 2006 at 22:48 UTC by marev »
(Observer)
good message there ,just the latest point about no oil/petrol is
wrong,total electricity is the answer,we must find any other possible
replacements for oil/petrol,the oil and petrol countries overall are
producing 5 times the oil than they did when they were all starving
years ago,so the population has incresead 5 times and now with the soon
prospect of these oil/petrol resources running out we are about to have
total starvation and lack of resources in depreived countries running
at far greater times than it was in band aid times with charity work
for band aid was the one of the most ill conceived ojects in history
with as a result 100s of millions of extra people dying when the oil
drys out woth maybe 10 times the casualty figures,wake up and make
robots please or at least prosthetic limbs/organs that make up for the
deveoped world,cheers.